{"id":1695,"date":"2009-04-01T09:55:22","date_gmt":"2009-04-01T14:55:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pmedicine.org\/epatients\/?p=1695"},"modified":"2022-09-19T16:05:30","modified_gmt":"2022-09-19T20:05:30","slug":"imagine-if-someone-had-been-managing-your-data-and-then-you-looked","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/2009\/04\/imagine-if-someone-had-been-managing-your-data-and-then-you-looked.html","title":{"rendered":"Imagine someone had been managing your data, and then you looked."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is a complex post, so don\u2019t jump to any conclusions.<\/p>\n<p>Two weeks ago (gad, was it that long?) I <a href=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/2009\/03\/imagine-someone-had-been-managing-your-money-and-you-thought-you-werent-qualified.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">asked you to think about something<\/a> for a few days:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Imagine that for all your life, and your parents\u2019 lives, your money had been managed by other people who had extensive training and licensing. Imagine that all your records were in their possession, and you could occasionally see parts of them, but you just figured the pros had it under control.<\/p>\n<p>Imagine that you knew you weren\u2019t a financial planner but you wanted to take as much responsibility as you could \u2013 to participate. Imagine that some money managers (not all, but many) attacked people who wanted to make their own decisions, saying \u201cWho\u2019s the financial planner here?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Then imagine that one day you were allowed to see the records, and you found out there were a whole lot of errors, and the people carefully guarding your data were not as on top of things as everyone thought.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Two weeks before that post, I\u2019d had a personal breakthough in my thinking. For a year I\u2019d been a rabid enemy of Google Health, but now I said: <a href=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/archives\/2009\/03\/im-putting-my-data-in-google-and-healthvault.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>I\u2019m\u00a0putting my data in Google and HealthVault<\/strong><\/a>: \u201cI\u2019m concluding that <strong>we can do more good by aggregating our data<\/strong> into large, anonymized databanks that <strong>smart software can analyze <\/strong>to look for patterns. Early detection means early intervention means fewer crises.\u201d And I observed that the power of Web 2.0 \u201cmash-ups\u201d \u2026<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2026lets people <em>create software gadgets<\/em> without knowing how they\u2019ll be used, it lets <em>people build tools <\/em>that use data without knowing where the data will come from, and it lets <em>people build big new systems<\/em> just by assembling them out of \u201csoftware Legos.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So, I said, \u201cI\u2019m in.\u201d I decided to punch the big red button and copy my personal health data into Google Health. What happened is the result of PatientSite&#8217;s &#8220;version 1&#8221; implementation, not their eventual full implementation, of the interface. To my knowledge, zero or one other hospitals have any interface at all, and as I&#8217;ll say later, I&#8217;m not even sure how much of the Google Health side of the connection is complete. Nonetheless, what I learned about my own data was quite informative, and quite surprising. (I&#8217;ve discussed what follows with hospital staff; this isn&#8217;t gossip behind anyone&#8217;s back. IMO, empowered people don&#8217;t gossip, they communicate clearly and directly with the people involved.)<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>When Google Health launched last May, my hospital\u2019s CIO blog said \u201cwe have enhanced our hospital and ambulatory systems such that a patient, with their consent and control, can upload their BIDMC records to Google Health in a few keystrokes. There is no need to manually enter this health data into Google&#8217;s personal health record, unlike earlier PHRs from Dr. Koop, HealthCentral and Revolution Health.\u201d So I went into my patient portal, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patientsite.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">PatientSite<\/a>, and clicked the button to do it. I checked the boxes for all the options and clicked Upload. It was pretty quick.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2009\/04\/hctz-gh.gif\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" style=\"border: 1px solid black\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2009\/04\/hctz-gh.gif\" alt=\"HCTz interaction alarm\" width=\"325\" height=\"201\" border=\"1\" \/><\/a>But WTF?\u00a0An alarm<strong>: &#8220;! Requires immediate attention&#8221;<\/strong> <em>[see screen capture at right]<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Okay, yes, HCTz is my blood pressure medication. But low potassium? That was true when I was hospitalized two years ago, not now. What\u2019s going on?<\/p>\n<p>Then I saw the list of \u201cconditions\u201d it told Google I have. At left is a partial screen grab, and at right is the complete condition list that PatientSite transmitted: (Spoiler alert; this stuff is biological and might seem gross.)<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"margin-right: 20px;margin-top: 20px;margin-bottom: 20px\" title=\"Google Health conditions list\" src=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2009\/04\/ghconditions.gif\" alt=\"Google Health conditions list\" width=\"252\" height=\"492\" \/><\/p>\n<pre>Acidosis\u00a0 Anxiety Disorder\r\nAortic Aneurysm\r\nArthroplasty - Hip, Total Replacemt\r\nBone Disease\r\nCANCER\r\nCancer\r\nMetastasis to Bone\r\nCardiac Impairment\r\nCHEST MASS\r\nChronic Lung Disease\r\nDepressed Mood\r\nDEPRESSION\r\nDiarrhea\r\nElevated Blood Pressure\r\nHair Follicle Inflammation w Abscess\r\nin Sweat Gland Areas\r\nHEALTH MAINTENANCE\r\nHYDRADENITIS\r\nHYPERTENSION\r\nInflammation of the Large Intestine\r\nIntestinal Parasitic Infection\r\nKidney Problems Causing a Decreased Amount of\r\nUrine to be Passed\r\nLightheaded\r\nLow Amount of Calcium in the Blood\r\nLow Amount of Potassium in the Blood\r\nMalignant Neoplastic Disease\r\nMigraine Headache\r\nMIGRAINES\r\nNausea and Vomiting\r\nNephrosis\r\nPSYCH\r\nRash\r\nSpread of Cancer to Brain or Spinal Cord\r\nSwollen Lymph Nodes<\/pre>\n<p>Yes, ladies and germs, it transmitted <strong>everything I\u2019ve ever had. With almost no dates attached.<\/strong> (It did have the correct date for my very first visit, and for Chest Mass, the x-ray that first found the undiagnosed lesion that turned out to be cancer. But the date for CANCER itself, the big one, was 5\/25\/07 \u2013 four months after the diagnosis. And no other line item had any date. For instance, the &#8220;anxiety&#8221; diagnosis was when I was puking my guts out during my cancer treatment. I got medicated for that, justified by the intelligent observation (diagnosis) that I was anxious. But you wouldn&#8217;t know <em>that <\/em>from looking at this.)<\/p>\n<p>See how some of the listed conditions have links for More Info? <a href=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2009\/04\/optical-migraine.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-1\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1698 alignleft\" style=\"margin-top: 10\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2009\/04\/optical-migraine.jpg\" alt=\"Optical migraine image\" width=\"137\" height=\"133\" \/><\/a>Let\u2019s see, I was diagnosed with optical migraine. <em>(I diagnosed myself, actually, by researching my symptoms and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.richmondeye.com\/simulation.asp#migraine\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">finding this illustrated site<\/a>. That\u2019s what e-patients do; <strong>it saves time in the doctor\u2019s office\u2026<\/strong> I brought a printout, with a dated list of episodes.)<\/em> But optical migraine is not the impression you\u2019d get from reading my Conditions list \u2013 in fact during my cancer workup one resident said \u201cBut you have headaches, right?\u201d \u201cNo,\u201d I said \u2013 \u201coptical migraines, but without pain.\u201d <em>(Update 4\/2: the illustration at left shows the dazzling pattern that an optical migraine produces.)<\/em> So for that item in the conditions list, I clicked More Info. I didn\u2019t get more info (i.e. accurate info) about my diagnosis, just Google\u2019s encyclopedia-style article about migraines in general. (An optical migraine has little in common with migraines in general.)<\/p>\n<p>The really fun stuff, though, is that <strong>some of the conditions transmitted are things I\u2019ve never had: <\/strong>aortic aneurysm and mets to the brain or spine. So what the heck??<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>I\u2019ve been discussing this with the docs in the back room here, and they quickly figured out what was going on before I confirmed it: <strong>the system transmitted insurance billing codes<\/strong> to Google Health, <strong>not doctors\u2019 diagnoses.<\/strong> And as those in the know are well aware, in our system today, insurance billing codes bear no resemblance to reality. (I don\u2019t want to get into the whole thing right now, but basically if a doc needs to bill insurance for something and the list of billing codes doesn\u2019t happen to include exactly what your condition is, they cram it into something else so the stupid system will accept it.) (And, btw, everyone in the business is apparently accustomed to the system being stupid, so it\u2019s no surprise that nobody can tell whether things are making any sense: nobody counts on the data to be meaningful in the first place.)<\/p>\n<p>It was around this time that I <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tedeytan.com\/2009\/03\/13\/2879#comment-3665\" target=\"epd\" rel=\"noopener\">commented<\/a> on Ted Eytan\u2019s blog, \u201c<strong>when you\u2019re exporting to a new system, the rule is, Garbage Out, Garbage In. (Hint: visibility into the data in your old system may leave you aghast.)<\/strong>\u201d We could (and will someday) have a nice big discussion about why the hell the most expensive healthcare system in the world (America\u2019s) STILL doesn\u2019t have an accurate data model, but that\u2019s not my point. We&#8217;ll get to that.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>And now we get to why I said, at the outset, don\u2019t jump to conclusions. I\u2019m mildly bitching about PatientSite, but that alone wouldn\u2019t justify staying up <del>to 3 in the morning<\/del> all night writing a <del datetime=\"2012-01-05T18:18:29+00:00\">2800<\/del> 3500 word post; that one system isn&#8217;t a big deal for e-patients everywhere. (And besides, although PatientSite is old and clunky, a 1999 system if I ever saw one, it beats what most hospitals offer, and it did the job very well for me during my illness. And this is just version 1 of the interface; the current folly is not a permanent situation.)<\/p>\n<p>The BIG question is, <strong>do you know what\u2019s in your medical record?<\/strong> And THAT is a question worth answering. For every one of you.<\/p>\n<p>See, every time I speak at a conference I point out that my 12\/6\/2003 x-ray identified me as a 53 year old woman. I admit I have the man-boob thing going on, but not THAT much. And here\u2019s the next thing: it took me months to get that error corrected, because <strong>nobody\u2019s in the habit of actually fixing errors.<\/strong> Think about THAT.<\/p>\n<p>I mean, some EMR pontificators are saying \u201cOnline data in the hospital won\u2019t do any good at the scene of a car crash.\u201d Well, GOOD: you think I\u2019d want the EMTs to think I have an aneurysm, anxiety, migraines and brain mets?? Yet if I hadn\u2019t punched that button, I never would have known my data in the system was erroneous.<\/p>\n<p>And <strong>this isn\u2019t just academic:<\/strong> remember the <a href=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/archives\/2008\/03\/e-patients-might-have-prevented-minnesota-wrong-kidney-tragedy.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Minnesota kidney cancer tragedy<\/a> just a year ago, which arose at least partly out of an error that ended up in the hospital\u2019s EMR system. Their patient portal allowed patients and family to view some radiology reports, but not the one that contained the fateful error.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>The punch line came when I got over my surprise about what had been transmitted, and realized what had not: my history. Weight, BP, and lab data were all still in PatientSite, and not in Google Health. So I went back and looked at the boxes I\u2019d checked for what data to send, and son of a gun, there were only three boxes: diagnoses, medications, and allergies. <strong>Nothing about lab data, nothing about vital signs.<\/strong>(So much for \u201cno need to manually enter this health data into Google&#8217;s personal health record.\u201d) And of the three things it did transmit:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"line-height: 1.4em\">what they transmitted for diagnoses was actually <strong>billing codes<\/strong><\/li>\n<li style=\"line-height: 1.4em\">the one item of medication data they sent was correct, but it was only my current BP med. (Which, btw, Google Health said had an urgent conflict with my two-years-ago potassium condition, which had been sent without a date). <strong>It sent no medication history,<\/strong> not even the fact that I&#8217;d had four weeks of high dosage Interleukin-2, which just MIGHT be useful to have in my personal health record, eh?<\/li>\n<li style=\"line-height: 1.4em\">the allergies data did NOT include the one thing I must not ever, ever violate: <strong>no steroids ever again<\/strong> (e.g. cortisone) (they suppress the immune system), because it\u2019ll interfere with the immune treatment that saved my life and is still active within me. (I am well, but my type of cancer normally recurs.)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In other words, the data that arrived in Google Health was essentially unusable.<\/p>\n<p>And now I\u2019m seeing why, on every visit, they make me re-state all my current medications and allergies: maybe they know the data in their system might not be reliable.<\/p>\n<p>Hey wait, a new article in the <em>Archives of Internal Medicine<\/em> (co-authored by our own Danny Sands, my very own primary) says <a href=\"http:\/\/archinte.ama-assn.org\/cgi\/content\/abstract\/169\/3\/305\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Clinicians override most medication alerts<\/strong><\/a>. Could it be they&#8217;ve been through this exercise themselves, and <em>they<\/em> consider the data unreliable? (Or do they just not trust computers?) (Hey Pew Internet, wanna check for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pewinternet.org\/Infographics\/Generational-differences-in-online-activities.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">generational differences<\/a>?)\u00a0Who knows, perhaps the resident in the migraine story has learned early on that the data in his system is not to be taken at face value \u2013 I don&#8217;t know.<\/p>\n<p>In any case, my hospital is very proactive and empowering to staff about root cause analysis for failures, with its <a href=\"http:\/\/runningahospital.blogspot.com\/search?q=%22bidmc+spirit%22\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8220;SPIRIT&#8221; program<\/a>, and they\u2019ll add any process or form that can catch potential errors. That\u2019s good. But wait: On numerous visits, I\u2019ve restated on those forms \u201cno steroids.\u201d But evidently what I write on the forms never gets entered into the system. Hm.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>I work with data in my day job. (I do marketing analytics for a software company. We import and export data all the time.) I understand what it takes to make sure you\u2019ve got clean data, and make sure the data models line up on both sides of a transfer. I know what it\u2019s like to look at a transfer gone bad, and hunt down where the errors arose, so they don\u2019t happen again. And I\u2019m fairly good at sniffing out how something went wobbly.<\/p>\n<p>And you know what I suspect? <strong>I suspect processes for data integrity in healthcare are largely absent, by ordinary business standards.<\/strong> I suspect there are few, if any, processes in place to prevent wrong data from entering the system, or tracking down the cause when things do go awry.<\/p>\n<p>And here\u2019s the real kicker: <strong>my hospital is one of the more advanced in the US in the use of electronic medical records. <\/strong>So I suspect that most healthcare institutions don\u2019t even know what it means to have processes in place to ensure that data doesn\u2019t get screwed up in the system, or if it does, to trace how it happened. Consider the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fastcompany.com\/magazine\/129\/the-cure.html?page=0%2C1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">article in <\/a><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.fastcompany.com\/magazine\/129\/the-cure.html?page=0%2C1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Fast Company<\/a> <\/em>last fall, about an innovative program at Geisinger. Anecdotally, it ended with this chiller:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;\u2026 a list of everybody that accessed the medical record from the time he was seen in the clinic to two weeks post-op.&#8217;There were <strong>113 people<\/strong> listed &#8212; and every one had an appropriate reason to be in that chart. It shocked all of us. We all knew this was a team sport, but to recognize it was that big a team, <strong>every one of whom is empowered to screw it up<\/strong> &#8212; that makes me toss and turn in my sleep.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a id=\"salesforce\"><\/a>In my day job, our sales and marketing system (Salesforce.com) has very granular authorizations for who can change what, and we can switch on a feature (at no extra cost) to track every change that\u2019s made on any data field. Why? Because in some business situations it\u2019s important to know where errors arose \u2013 an error might cause business damage, or an employee might sue over a missed quota.<\/p>\n<p>So I\u2019m thinking, <strong>why on earth don\u2019t medical records systems have these protections?<\/strong> If a popular-priced sales management system has audit traces, to prevent an occasional lawsuit over a sales rep\u2019s missed commission, why isn\u2019t this a standard feature in high-priced medical records systems? In any case, in the several weeks since these discoveries started, as far as I know they haven\u2019t figured out how my wrong data got in there. And without knowing how the wrong data got in, there\u2019s not a prayer of identifying what process failed.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>BUT AS I SAID,<\/strong> this is not about my hospital; a problem at my hospital affects only one scrillionth of patients in the US, not to mention the rest of the world. And please don\u2019t blame my hospital\u2019s CIO; I think what he wrote about the Google Health interface was overzealous, but I believe he\u2019s a good man, committed to helping us own our own data (his work on the Google Health advisory board was unpaid), and this post isn\u2019t about him: as far as I know, <strong>this hospital is farther along than anyone else:\u00a0<\/strong>hardly anyone else has implemented a Google Health interface. (Perhaps for good reason.) <strong>Nor is this a slam on Google Health.<\/strong>I haven&#8217;t probed yet into whether there are limitations in what it does; might be fine, might not. Heck, neither PatientSite nor I have put any good data into it yet. (And I haven&#8217;t even touched HealthVault.) None of that is my point. Rather, my point is about the data that was already in my PHR, uninspected. For that, let\u2019s return to my previous post:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Then imagine that one day you were allowed to see the records, and you found out there were a whole lot of errors, and the people carefully guarding your data were not as on top of things as everyone thought.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In my day job, when we discover that a data set has not been well managed, we have to make a decision: do we go back and clean up the data (which takes time and money), or do we decide to just start \u201cliving clean\u201d from now on? My point, my advice to e-patients, is:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"line-height: 1.4em\"><strong>Find out what\u2019s in your medical record. <\/strong>What\u2019s in <em>your <\/em>wallet, medically speaking? Better find out, and correct what\u2019s wrong.<\/li>\n<li style=\"line-height: 1.4em\"><strong>Get started, manually, moving your data into Google Health, HealthVault, or some such system. <\/strong>I\u2019ve heard there are similar PHR systems (personal health records), not free but modestly priced, that can reportedly make this easier. I\u2019m sure their friends will show up here in the comments. (Feel free to post product info links in the comments, everyone.)<\/li>\n<li style=\"line-height: 1.4em\"><strong>Let\u2019s start working, now, on a reliable interoperable data model. <\/strong>I know the policy wonks are going to scream \u201cNot possible!\u201d and I know there are lots of good reasons why it\u2019s impossibly complex. But y\u2019know what else? I\u2019ve talked to enough e-patients to be confident that <strong>we patients <em>want <\/em>working, interoperable data. <\/strong>And if you-all in the vendor community can\u2019t work it out, we will start growing one. It won\u2019t be as sophisticated as yours, but as with all <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Disruptive_technology\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">disruptive technologies<\/a>, <strong>it will be what we want.<\/strong>And we\u2019ll add features to ours, faster than you can hold meetings to discuss us.I have to say, while researching this post I was quite surprised at how very, very far the industry has to go before reaching a viable universal data model. New standards are in development, but I&#8217;m certain that it will take years and years and gazillions of dollars before any of that is a reality. (What, like costs aren&#8217;t high enough already?) In the meantime, your data is probably not going to flow very easily from system to system. Far, far harder than (for instance) downloading your data to Quicken from different credit card companies and banks. (Wizards and geeks refer to this &#8220;flow&#8221; issue as &#8220;data liquidity.&#8221; We&#8217;ll talk about that in the future.)<\/li>\n<li style=\"line-height: 1.4em\"><strong>Let\u2019s start working, now, on an open source EMR\/PHR system. <\/strong>The open source community creates functionality faster, and more bug-free, than commercial vendors do \u2013 and nobody can latch onto proprietary data in such systems to milk more margin out of us&#8230; because it <em>ain&#8217;t<\/em> proprietary.The great limitation of open source is that it\u2019s generally not well funded. But you know what? Every person in America (including software engineers) is motivated to have good reliable healthcare systems, and I assert that the industry ain\u2019t getting\u2019 it done on their own. As I said in my <a href=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/archives\/2009\/02\/a-thousand-points-of-pain.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Thousand Points of Pain<\/a> post (cross-posted on IBM\u2019s Smarter Planet blog as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.asmarterplanet.com\/blog\/2009\/03\/a-business-thinker-asks-what-will-it-take-to-get-traction.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>A business thinker asks, what will it take to get traction?<\/strong><\/a>), it\u2019s fine with me if industry vendors come along too \u2013 but I would not stake my life on their moving fast enough for my needs. Or your mother&#8217;s needs.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Want a case study with real consequences? Recall what happened last year to <a href=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/archives\/2008\/06\/doc-searls-patient-as-platform-and-point-of-integration.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">famed <strong>Linux guru Doc Searls<\/strong><\/a> when he couldn\u2019t read his own scan data, because good cross-platform image viewing tools weren\u2019t available. (His prescription: the patient should be the platform and \u201cthe point of integration.\u201d) Well, okay, so Doc was a year ahead of me. I&#8217;m catching on. This illustrates why I think people from outside the profession may be our greatest asset in building what <em>patients <\/em>really need: patients tend to build what they want. And we who work with data all day know that these problems are not unsolvable.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>My bottom line: I think <strong>we ought to get our data into secure online systems,<\/strong> and we shouldn\u2019t expect it to happen with the push of a button. It\u2019ll take work. <strong>So let\u2019s get to work.<\/strong> You know the work will be good for you, and heaven only knows what you\u2019ll learn in the process. You\u2019ll certainly end up more aware of your health data than when you started. And that\u2019s a good thing.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 80%\">Minor edits made 4\/12\/2009, and 1\/5\/2012 and 9\/19\/2022 for clarity and to adjust to this blog&#8217;s new format<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is a complex post, so don\u2019t jump to any conclusions. Two weeks ago (gad, was it that long?) 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