{"id":2986,"date":"2009-08-14T08:30:22","date_gmt":"2009-08-14T13:30:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pmedicine.org\/epatients\/?p=2986"},"modified":"2009-08-17T11:00:35","modified_gmt":"2009-08-17T16:00:35","slug":"e-patient-training-topic-a-national-article-reports-relative-risk-not-raw-data","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/2009\/08\/e-patient-training-topic-a-national-article-reports-relative-risk-not-raw-data.html","title":{"rendered":"e-Patient Training Topic: National Article Reports Relative Risk, Not Raw Data."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Important update: it turns out the writer <strong>did<\/strong> get it right, and this was an editing error at the Boston Globe. See my comment August 17.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>As empowered, engaged patients we have a responsibility to evaluate the articles we read. A case in point is this week\u2019s Associated Press article <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.boston.com\/news\/world\/europe\/articles\/2009\/08\/12\/any_spread_of_breast_cancer_raises_risk_of_return\">Any\u00a0Spread Of Breast Cancer Raises Risk Of Return<\/a><\/strong>. It\u2019s about a paper in this week\u2019s <em>New England Journal of Medicine<\/em> that found a 50% increase in the chance of cancer recurring, and quotes an expert as saying<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cI think it will influence treatment. If we\u2019re considering treating the patient, we probably should.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Can you spot the flaw in that reasoning, if all you have is that number? That\u2019s\u00a0all the article reported, and that&#8217;s a problem.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->The problem is <strong>relative risk reduction<\/strong>. As we discussed last November in <a href=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/archives\/2008\/11\/making-sense-of-health-statistics.html\" target=\"new\">Making sense of health statistics<\/a>, relative risk is an unsound basis for policy decisions, because you can\u2019t tell the actual size of the impact.  That\u00a0affects you as a patient and you as a citizen thinking about policy.<\/p>\n<p>In the study, did the 50% change mean represent a change from 200 patients per thousand to 300 per thousand, or from 2 per thousand to 3 per thousand? (Specifically, if we spend a zillion dollars based on this result, will we affect 1\/1oth of the US population, or 1\/1,000th?<\/p>\n<p>Think about it for your own body. Your health provider suggests a treatment and says it\u2019ll reduce your chance of a problem by 35%. (That\u2019s the number commonly cited for statins like Lipitor.) Sounds impressive, right? But that\u2019s a <strong>relative risk<\/strong> number. The raw data showed that among the general population, 1.59% had a coronary event, and among Lipitor users, 1.02% <em>had one anyway<\/em>. So for the $25 billion we spend on Lipitor in the US, we affect one patient in 200.<\/p>\n<p>So now imagine your provider says \u201cThere\u2019s a one in 200 chance this prescription will make a difference for  you. Want it?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I think there are two levels of concern for us as patients engaged in the new world of healthcare:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>For you personally, <strong>ask your providers for the absolute numbers.<\/strong> They may need to go digging, because they themselves may not have been <em>given <\/em>the numbers. But you have every right to know, eh?<\/li>\n<li>At a national level, <strong>the same thinking must be applied to policy decisions.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I wrote a note to the author of the AP article asking if she can get the absolute numbers. (As usual, the <a href=\"http:\/\/content.nejm.org\/cgi\/content\/short\/361\/7\/653?query=TOC\" target=\"new\">original article in NEJM<\/a> isn\u2019t open for us to evaluate.)<\/p>\n<p><em>Related resources:<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.healthnewsreview.org\/review\/review.php?rid=1631\" target=\"new\">Health News Review<\/a> &#8211; a superb resource for understanding how to evaluate health news. (Thanks to <a href=\"http:\/\/tedeytan.com\" target=\"_blank\">Ted Eytan<\/a> for the tip last year.)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/patientdave.blogspot.com\/2008\/11\/evidence-based-medicine.html\" target=\"new\">Evidence-based medicine<\/a> \u2013 my post last November citing the Lipitor numbers, as reported in Andy Kessler\u2019s book <em>The End of Medicine<\/em>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Important update: it turns out the writer did get it right, and this was an editing error at the Boston Globe. 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