{"id":8279,"date":"2011-01-20T17:14:49","date_gmt":"2011-01-20T21:14:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pmedicine.org\/epatients\/?p=8279"},"modified":"2011-01-21T10:38:48","modified_gmt":"2011-01-21T14:38:48","slug":"is-the-culture-budging-time-reports-that-informed-patients-can-help-doctors","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/2011\/01\/is-the-culture-budging-time-reports-that-informed-patients-can-help-doctors.html","title":{"rendered":"Is the culture finally budging?? Time reports that patients who google can help doctors"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Thanks to friends Kavita Patel and Brian Ahier for pointing out this sign of shifting winds, in yesterday&#8217;s <em>Time<\/em> online:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.time.com\/time\/health\/article\/0,8599,2043125,00.html\" target=\"_blank\">Googling Symptoms Helps Patients and Doctors<\/a>. It&#8217;s a watershed moment, because the last physician column I saw on this was the unpleasant 2007\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.time.com\/time\/health\/article\/0,8599,1681838,00.html\" target=\"_blank\">When the Patient is a Googler<\/a>, by Scott Haig MD.<\/p>\n<p>It drove me up a wall, because the title suggested Googling was the problem, when the story was actually about\u00a0a nightmare patient who was just plain <em>rude<\/em>. To brand &#8220;googlers&#8221; as wack jobs was imprecise at best. \u00a0I responded with one of my first posts here,\u00a0March 2008: <a href=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/archives\/2008\/03\/when-the-patient-is-a-yahoo.html\">When the Patient is a Yahoo<\/a>.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nShortly after, our Alan Greene, physician c0-chair of SPM and co-founder of DrGreene.com, <a href=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/archives\/2008\/01\/two-views-on-e-patients-and-the-doctors-who-see-them.html\">posted here<\/a> about the article, with links to coverage in Salon.com. He summed up our status:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We live in a time of rapid tectonic shifts in what it means to be a doctor and what it means to be a patient. I\u2019m not surprised that there are clashes of ideology and practice. Our labyrinthine, barnacle-encrusted healthcare system resists change. So do our social structures that have lasted for millennia.<\/p>\n<p>But already many e-patients and many e-doctors are actively enjoying a new way of relating, rooted in mutual respect and open access to health information.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There was so much blog discussion that Dr. Haig led a physician roundtable, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.orthosupersite.com\/view.aspx?rid=27485\" target=\"_blank\">How to deal with the digitally empowered patient<\/a>,\u00a0reported in <em>Orthopedics Today<\/em>. Haig cited that twenty major blogs hosted lengthy discussion of his &#8220;When the Patient&#8221; article. (John Grohol <a href=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/archives\/2008\/04\/doctors-discuss-how-to-deal-with-e-patients.html\">posted<\/a> here\u00a0about the roundtable.)<\/p>\n<p>That was the background, from 2008, against which yesterday&#8217;s <em>Time<\/em> piece landed. In the new piece I was thrilled to see author Dr. Zack Meisel (<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/zacharymeisel\" target=\"_blank\">@ZacharyMeisel<\/a>) describe how patient engagement actually plays out for him: <em>(emphasis added, in all quotes here)<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Recently I saw a patient who came to the ER with a strange rash. She arrived with color printouts that correctly identified her condition. Not only was she correct in her self-diagnosis, but <strong>I am not sure I would have considered the right diagnosis so quickly<\/strong> if she hadn&#8217;t brought in the pictures (it was a common condition with an atypical presentation). I know many health providers who have experienced similar circumstances.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Partnership! An engaged patient, trying to contribute what she can, <em>helps the physician <\/em>do his job.<\/p>\n<p>The best part comes next:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>But to debate whether patients should or should not Google their symptoms (which a surprising number of doctors seem to enjoy engaging in) <strong>is an absurd exercise<\/strong>. Patients already are\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.pewinternet.org\/topics\/Health.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">doing<\/a> it, it is now a fact of normal patient behavior, and it will only increase as Internet technology becomes ever more ubiquitous.<\/p>\n<p>The average Joe has <strong>more health information at his fingertips<\/strong> \u2014 both credible and charlatan \u2014 <strong>than all the medical libraries ever built<\/strong> put together. So the real question is, <strong>What can professionals do to translate this phenomenon into better health<\/strong> for their patients and the public?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That information-at-the-fingertips point resonates with what a Dartmouth-Hitchcock anesthesiologist told me on a plane flight last May: &#8220;I <em>have <\/em>to take my laptop into the OR. We don&#8217;t physically have, here in the building, all the information I might need during the procedures.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In all of this coverage I think the best perspective is what John G extracted for his post about the roundtable:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A well-educated patient is easier to treat. A badly educated patient is very difficult to treat.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I think it&#8217;d be great for the Society for Participatory Medicine to accelerate this shift by developing tools to teach smart info-shopping. Culture change doesn&#8217;t show up in life all that often, and we should guide it.<br \/>\n________<\/p>\n<p><em>A curious note: The headline cited above is different from what it said yesterday:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2011\/01\/Time-headline-2-19-2011.png\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-8285\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2011\/01\/Time-headline-2-19-2011.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"410\" height=\"158\" srcset=\"https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2011\/01\/Time-headline-2-19-2011.png 410w, https:\/\/participatorymedicine.org\/epatients\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2011\/01\/Time-headline-2-19-2011-300x115.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 410px) 100vw, 410px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thanks to friends Kavita Patel and Brian Ahier for pointing out this sign of shifting winds, in yesterday&#8217;s Time online:\u00a0Googling Symptoms Helps Patients and Doctors. 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